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wed probably be 18-14 with a different manager

go birds wrote:wed probably be 18-14 with a different manager

We could be 5 - 27 with a different manager too.

matheny's questionable starter/bullpen management has cost this team AT LEAST 2 wins. i was being generous with my figures.

you could probably make an argument that batting diaz 7th/8th on a regular basis has cost a win or two as well

go birds wrote:wed probably be 18-14 with a different manager

I think better than that honestly. A combination of how he's handled pitching and how he's lost the clubhouse.

dmarx114 wrote:

Magneto2.0 wrote:Only time people bring up that Mariners team it's to make a joke about them getting bumped out quickly. They're not regarded as a legendary team even tho they should be.

Agreed.

And the 18-1 Patriots would agree as well.

2004 was a fun season, but that team will always be stained with losing in the World Series.

And these will be the stakes for the Cubs in October. If they win it all, it will be the greatest thing ever for their fans. If they lose at any point, they will be just another great regular season team who fell short in October.

i still think of the 07 patriots as one of the greatest football teams i've ever watched that happened to lose a really weird game in the superbowl.

davhern wrote:

dmarx114 wrote:

Magneto2.0 wrote:Only time people bring up that Mariners team it's to make a joke about them getting bumped out quickly. They're not regarded as a legendary team even tho they should be.

Agreed.

And the 18-1 Patriots would agree as well.

2004 was a fun season, but that team will always be stained with losing in the World Series.

And these will be the stakes for the Cubs in October. If they win it all, it will be the greatest thing ever for their fans. If they lose at any point, they will be just another great regular season team who fell short in October.

i still think of the 07 patriots as one of the greatest football teams i've ever watched that happened to lose a really weird game in the superbowl.

Yes...."one of the greatest teams ever, but......".

This is where the Cubs will be if they win 110+ and lose in October.

I still think I'd rather be that than 86 wins and cannon fodder.

go birds wrote:wed probably be 18-14 with a different manager

I think even better honestly

CardRed wrote:

go birds wrote:wed probably be 18-14 with a different manager

I think better than that honestly. A combination of how he's handled pitching and how he's lost the clubhouse.

Must be getting stale in there.

I actually think Matheny has improved on how he uses his bullpen....my only criticism would be that he doesn't get Lyons enough work. My biggest issue this season has been his lineup decisions. It's great to have Carp and Piscotty with high OBPs at 1-2...but there's nobody to drive them in. Holliday looks every bit of 36, Molina was fine batting #5 when he was hitting .340....there is just a lot of curious decisions being made there.